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Libertarian Party California Primary Election Day Scandal
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samsloan
2012-06-06 06:56:46 UTC
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Libertarian Party California Primary Election Day Scandal

I went to the Polling place today to vote on the California
Presidential Primary.

In California, unlike many other states, the Libertarian Party has a
ballot line and thus Libertarians have their own presidential primary.

When I received my Libertarian primary ballot, the following
candidates were listed.

Barbara Waymire
Lee Wrights
Roger Gary
James Ogle
Scott Keller
Gary Johnson
R. J. Harris
Carl Person

The point is my name was not there even though I was a declared
candidate for the Libertarian Party nomination.

I already knew the reason my name was not there. Back on about the
First of March the Libertarian National Committee with Mark Hinkle as
Chairman had submitted a list of names to the California Secretary of
State. Although I was registered with the Federal Election Commission
and fully qualified in every way to be the Libertarian Party
Candidate, certain persons within the party have been campaigning
against me and thereby blocking me from becoming a Libertarian Party
Candidate for the last ten years since 2002.

I have been advised that since these people are popular within the
party it would be counter-productive to go public with their names. My
best chance has been to keep quite about this, or so it has been said.

However, now that have nothing to lose any more, I might as well go
public with the names of these people.

The main two people doing this are Bonnie Scott and James Lesczynski.

I think that now it is time to take off the kid gloves that I have
been wearing. My problems with the New York Libertarian Party go back
to the New York State Committee Meeting in Richard Cooper's Office on
Long Island in January 2002, exactly ten years ago. At that meeting I
was viciously attacked by Bonnie Scott and Jim Lesczynski, whom I had
just met and did not even know. I did not know anybody at that meeting
and was meeting them all for the first time. As far as I knew, none of
them knew me either. When I walked into the meeting, they were already
debating me. I had no idea why they were attacking me and to this day
I still do not have the slightest idea why they attacked me then and
why they have continuously attacked me ever since to this day.

My friend Nic Leobold who was also a friend of Jim Lesczynski once
asked him why he does this and Jim Lesczynski replied "I just don't
like the guy, that's all".

Soon thereafter this meeting in January 2002, they were joined by Ron
Moore. Again, I have no idea why he constantly attacks me. Most
recently they have been joined by Mark Axinn, who is publicly cordial
and polite but like the others attacks me from behind my back.

These four, Bonnie Scott, Jim Lesczynski, Ron Moore and Mark Axinn are
the Libertarian Party Gang of Four, as far as I am concerned.

It is not only I who is attacked by them. There are others who are in
their cross-hairs too.

What I would like to know is the reason. I really do not know why they
do this. It is obvious that there is some kind of whispering campaign
going on against me. It has often been suggested that the reason is my
religion. I do not think that is the reason but of course it is a
possibility to be considered.

The person who definitely started this was Bonnie Scott. At that
meeting in January 2002, where she was not physically present but was
attending in a telephone conference call, she claimed that I am an
abuser of women. She claimed that I had made objectionable statements
offensive to women on my website, www.anusha.com I countered that I
had made no such statements and she had simply mis- remembered or
misquoted what I had actually said.

Since she could not cite the page or the article where I had allegedly
made these objectionable statements, and still to this day has not
been able to do so, that should have attended the matter.

However, I have found out that ten years later at the 2012 Libertarian
National Convention in Las Vegas held May 2-6, 2012, Bonnie Scott was
going around making the same statements and accusations against me
that she had made at the meeting in January 2002, more than ten years
ago.

One would think that after ten full years of doing this, and she
always does this secretly and surreptitiously, she would find herself
something more productive to do with her time.

I have found out that the reason I could get into the Presidential
Debates or on the ballot was that Bonnie Scott and Ron Moore were
going around talking to the delegates, telling them not to give me
their tokens.

I knew that Ron Moore was doing this so, I had my wife ask him about
this. Ron Moore responded with a litany of complaints mostly concerned
with objectionable emails he claimed I has sent in 2002, especially
one comparing a New York Libertarian Party activist to Lady Godiva, a
famous tax protestor.

I later remembered that Ron Moore did not have an email address back
in 2002 and has never been an active member of our email groups, so he
could not have had direct knowledge of the postings he cites, plus
there was nothing wrong with them. Nevertheless, that has not stopped
Ron Moore from openly campaigning against me for the last ten years,
including for example blocking me from participating in the New York
Libertarian Party Presidential debate held on April 21, 2012 to which
I had been invited but Ron Moore had vetoed my participation as
Chairman of the Manhattan Libertarian Party. All other candidates,
except for me, were allowed to participate in this debate.

I want to explain that I fully support Gary Johnson as a Libertarian
Party Presidential Candidate. He is a wonderful candidate, a dream
come true for the Libertarian Party. I believe that he can and will be
elected President of the United States, especially if he is able to
get into the Presidential Debates so that the American public will be
able to see how vastly superior he is to the other candidates.

However, I was by far the best known candidate on a world-wide basis.
Take a look at the list of so-called candidates above. Nobody has ever
heard of any of these people. Yet, everybody has heard of me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sloan

The Libertarian Party is guilty of the same corruption that they
accuse the Republican and Democrats of. Actually, the Libertarian
Party is worse. There can be little doubt that members of the
Republican National Committee would like to keep Ron Paul out of the
debates and out of the primaries, yet the name of Ron Paul appears
there.

However, the Libertarian Party National Committee blocked my name from
appearing in the California Presidential Primary, thus creating doubt
as to the legitimacy of the official candidate, since I would have
been the strongest opponent had I been allowed to run.

They did more than just keep me off the California Presidential
Primary. They also removed my name from the Libertarian Party website
at lp.org. My name was originally listed as a candidate. Then they
suddenly removed my name and the names of several others from the
website. However, the names of all the others were reinstated a few
days later. When Starchild in California protested, a vote was taken
and 90% of the Libertarian Party voters said that all the names should
be listed. The LNC responded to this vote by REMOVING ALL THE NAMES.
So, the LNC did exactly the opposite of what the voters asked them to
do.

The Libertarian National Committee paid a price for this, as almost
the entire LNC was voted out of office in the LNC Committee elections
held in Las Vegas on May 6, 2012

Sam Sloan
June 5, 2012
Bobcat
2012-06-06 11:35:04 UTC
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Post by samsloan
Libertarian Party California Primary Election Day Scandal
<Snip Garbage >
Post by samsloan
The point is my name was not there even though I was a declared
candidate for the Libertarian Party nomination.
I already knew the reason my name was not there. Back on about the
First of March the Libertarian National Committee with Mark Hinkle as
Chairman had submitted a list of names to the California Secretary of
State. Although I was registered with the Federal Election Commission
and fully qualified in every way to be the Libertarian Party
Candidate, certain persons within the party have been campaigning
against me and thereby blocking me from becoming a Libertarian Party
Candidate for the last ten years since 2002.
< Snip More Garbage >

Question Sam: What in God's name makes you think you could ever, even
in the most remotest of chances, ever win a NATIONAL OFFICE, let alone
be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, when you can't even win an EB
members spot on a highly insular, and much, much, smaller institution
such as the United States Chess Federation??? Once the Media started
to dig into you past -- which you know they would -- you'd be
TOAST!!!

Is it *possible* Sam that the REASON the Libertarian National
Committee omitted your name is that your reputation proceeded you;
that the Libertarian National Committee considered that someone of
your, shall we say, questionable moral character, would prove a drag
on a fledgling political party which is striving to be taken seriously
in these uncertain times??

Many of the issues that Ron Paul has addressed, regardless of whether
you agree with him or not, are due consideration, given that both the
Republican'ts and the Democrats can't offer anything other than more
of status quo. With the possible exception of Poss Perot, I can't
think of a single time when a third party candidate has generated the
true discussion that Ron Paul has. While many consider him still to
be a crackpot, many of his ideas are not totally being dismissed out
of hand, and being actively discussed, both pro and con. Put Sam Sloan
on the ballot and YOU become the issue -- that is you and your
questionable morality become the issue. Including you on the
Libertarian ballot would only ensure that you would drag a party that
is struggling to be taken seriously, back into a parody of a joke,
which will ultimately sink under its own weight back into that
primordial ooze from which it is trying to escape.
samsloan
2012-06-06 18:38:07 UTC
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I ask that Ron Moore reproduce this posting that he claims to remember
so well even though it was apparently from 2002, or ten years ago.

I would like for others to express their opinion about this posting
about Lady Godiva, and her famous ride in the year 1057 AD, and why
this posting by me was so objectionable that Ron Moore used it as a
basis to bar me from engaging in the Libertarian Party Presidential
Debates in the year 2012, ten full years later.

Sam Sloan

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Ron Moore <***@manhattanlp.org>
wrote:



Sam overestimates my effectiveness since I didn’t even know there
was a California primary, nor did I care who was running.



As a demonstration of Sam’s distortions in his earlier email he
refers to comparing Andrea Snell to a famous tax protester as if it
was a compliment. In fact he suggested that because her event was in
his eyes so unsuccessful maybe it would be better if she rode naked.
Am I the only one who thinks that’s grotesque?



His accounts of events should be praised for their creativity
rather than their accuracy.



Ron



From: mark axinn [mailto:***@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:11 PM
To: LPQC; ***@yahoogroups.com;
***@yahoogroups.com; ***@yahoogroups.com;
LPKC
Subject: Sam Sloan's email re: California Primary
Post by samsloan
These four, Bonnie Scott, Jim Lesczynski, Ron Moore and Mark
Axinn are
Post by samsloan
the Libertarian Party Gang of Four, as far as I am concerned.
It is not only I who am attacked by them. There are others who
are in
Post by samsloan
their cross-hairs too.
samsloan
2012-06-06 20:38:49 UTC
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It is unfortunate that Mark Axinn is suffering from such a severe case
of senile dementia, and at such an early age, that he cannot remember
events of just a few months ago.

Mark says that he has no idea who I could be referring to in my
statement, “It is not only I who am attacked by them. There are others
who are in their cross-hairs too.”

How can Mark Axinn have forgotten that under his “leadership” the most
active and productive Libertarian Party member in the State of New
York was expelled from Party Membership in the middle of an election
campaign and then the longest serving and distinguished Chairman of
the longest active chapter was ordered to be “investigated”. That
chairman resigned upon learning that under Mark he had been ordered to
be investigated. How can Mark have forgotten these events under his
leadership? Do you remember it now, Mark?
Bret Cahill
2012-06-07 16:15:00 UTC
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Post by samsloan
It is unfortunate that Mark Axinn is suffering from such a severe case
of senile dementia
They're all like that in the LP.


Bret Cahill

samsloan
2012-06-07 05:23:27 UTC
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It is unfortunate that Mark Axinn is suffering from such a severe case
of senile dementia, and at such an early age, that he cannot remember
events of just a few months ago.

Mark says that he has no idea who I could be referring to in my
statement, “It is not only I who am attacked by them. There are others
who are in their cross-hairs too.”

Mark Axinn says he had nothing to do with removing my name from the
list of candidates on the lp.org website. Must be Alzheimer's setting
in because otherwise Mark would surely remember the following email
posting to me only four months ago, where he stated on Tue, Jan 24,
2012 at 12:03 PM, “I will make certain every state chair and every
member of the LNC is aware of your activities in 2010.”

It was on this very same day that Mark made his statement “I will make
certain every state chair and every member of the LNC is aware of your
activities in 2010”, that the Libertarian National Committee ordered
the removal of my name from the list of candidates at lp.org

Now Mark claims here and elsewhere that I am being “delusional” in
suggesting that he had something to do with the removal of my name
from the Libertarian Party list of candidates.

Sam Sloan
Post by samsloan
These four, Bonnie Scott, Jim Lesczynski, Ron Moore and Mark Axinn are
the Libertarian Party Gang of Four, as far as I am concerned.
It is not only I who am attacked by them. There are others who are in
their cross-hairs too.
Sam--

I can only speak for myself, as I have not seen nor spoken to Bonnie
in over three years (guess the Gang of Four is not so cohesive!) and
Jim's involvement with the LP or any of its subdivisions is very
limited at present.

At no time have I ever discussed your appearance or non-appearance on
the California primary ballot with anyone. The first I became aware of
the issue is when I just read your email.

As far as the delusional statement in the second paragraph, I have no
idea to whom you refer.

I am pleased to see you are supporting the duly-nominated candidates
of the Libertarian Party and wish you much success in spreading the
pro-freedom message in your new home state.

Mark
samsloan
2012-06-07 13:23:07 UTC
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Here are the California Libertarian Party Primary Results

Barbara Waymire 1669 votes 15.7%
Lee Wrights 379 3.6%
Roger Gary 456 4.3%
James Ogle 443 4.2%
Scott Keller 949 8.9%
Gary Johnson 5244 49.4%
R. J. Harris 523 4.9%
Carl Person 414 3.9%
Bill Still 538 5.1%
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